Wednesday, May 30, 2007

The Live-In Caregiver Program

Update Nov, 2014- Please be advised, some of the laws around this program have now changed. Here's an article describing the changes.

The biggest gift you can give yourself as a single mother is peace of mind. A huge part of that comes from knowing that if you have to be gone long hours earning a living your child is receiving organized, proper care. If you have an extra bedroom and a regular, fairly decent paying job, the federal Live-In Caregiver Program could be a godsend.

You don't have to be rich to hire a nanny through this program; indeed, combined with the Universal Child Care Benefit and the room and board withholding, it's cheaper than daycare. It's also more personal, more supportive of you, and, depending on which country your nanny-to-be comes from, doesn't have to take as long as you think.

Here's how it works: You must first decide whether you're going to find someone yourself or go through a nanny agency. To find a reputable nanny agency in your town, ask people you know who have live-in or full-time caregivers working for them. Or ask caregivers that you know and like which agency brought them over. The nanny agency should have a clean record with the Better Business Bureau and have an employee who is a licensed Immigration Consultant, according to Eva Knof, president and founder of Select Nannies, a nationwide agency that offers discounts to single mothers.

The agency will probably have pictures and bios of potential caregivers, and should, if you wish it, arrange for you to speak to a few on the phone. Nanny agencies charge a fee for finding the nanny and doing the paperwork for you. Based on some companies' websites I've looked at, it should not cost more than $1200. - half up front, the other half when the nanny arrives.

However, according to Service Canada spokesperson Murry Gross there's no reason you can't do the paperwork yourself. Caregivers you know and trust may have like-minded siblings or friends overseas who would like to emigrate; you may have a friend or family member living overseas who can recommend someone. Almost everybody in Canada knows someone who is a recent emigre, particularly if you live in a city, and any one of them may have a family member or friend. You're just as likely to find someone you like this way as having a nanny company charge you for asking the same questions. Again, talk to your potential nanny over the phone, or, if technically possible, arrange for you and your children to have a web cam conversation with her.

Once you have found someone, fill out the Foreign Live-In Caregiver Application form and fax or mail it to your nearest Service Canada office. According to Service Canada's Toronto office you can ignore the recruitment requirement (question #39) on this form because Service Canada has currently identified a shortage of live-in caregivers in Canada.

Approval of your application form can take two to six weeks and is based on having sufficient income to pay your nanny minimum wage, not how many parents live in your household or where you live, according to Citizen and Immigration spokesperson Lisa Borsu. You will not be asked up front for documents proving your income or housing but if they suspect you are not able to pay or house a nanny, they will ask for proof. Once approved, you will receive a confirmation letter (also known as a Labour Market Opinion) which you send, along with a signed contract, to your nanny-to-be in her home country. (You can find sample contracts on the Citizenship and Immigration Canada website.) Your nanny-to-be will take these two documents and go to the Visa Office of the Canadian Embassy, consulate or mission in her town or region and apply for a work permit. The embassy will give her an English proficiency test, a medical exam and a criminal record check and once she passes those, she gets her work permit and she's on the plane.

Nannies from Hong Kong or Taiwan take one month to get the work permit; nannies from The Philippines take a year, says Knof, adding that The Philippines used to take three years. You can phone or email the Visa Office of the country in which your chosen nanny lives to check waiting times for work permit approval. Each one will be different. As a random sample, the waiting time in Peru is one month if the nanny does her medical while waiting for her Work Permit, two and a half months if she does it after she gets it. (I learned this by calling their number as listed on the Visa Office website and listening to their answering machine).

Your nanny lives with you for two years, after which she qualifies for permanent residency status. The law states that if you do not like the nanny or she doesn't like you, you are not under any obligation to stay together, even though you brought her to Canada. If you use a nanny agency, get them to sign an agreement that if she doesn't work out in the first three to six months, they will find you another free of charge. Like any other Canadian worker, she gets paid overtime for anything over 40 hours a week but, according to Knof, nannies and employers spread the 40 hours over the times when the children need her, arranging her time off when the kids are in school or with you. There are a number of federal labour dispute resources and caregiver associations listed on the Citizenshipship and Immigration Canada website, as well as lots of information about the whole process.

And what's in it for the people who come? In Toronto, I must have known a dozen nannies who came to Canada on this program and were very content with the opportunities it offered. One of them told me that after two years of taking care of an elderly couple through the Live-In Caregiver Program she and her husband made a down payment on a condo. Some are single mothers who might need you as much as you need them. Emigres are encouraged through the program to bring family members over when they qualify for residency status. And, although it represents a huge savings for you, her room and board works out to be a fraction of the price she would pay if she were renting her own place, especially in the cities. According to Knof, 60 percent of whose clientele are single mothers, it's a "win-win" situation.

Of course, there's no guarantee for anything; trust your instincts if something doesn't seem right. But at the same time, single mothers need to search for creative solutions, focus on what can go right with a bold move like this and persevere through the glitches. Is it going to save your job? Is it going to save your sanity? Is it going to save your children's sanity? If so, it's probably worth the effort; indeed, you deserve to run as tight a ship as everyone else. Once she's in place, this is a person whose career for the next few years is watching over your children while you stabilize the world around them.

Painting is Laura would call the little ones by Arthur Rackham; Courtesy ARC

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Eva is right, it works very well to have a nanny. I employ one from the Philippines and couldn't be happier. However, the nanny pays big time for the chance to work in Canada.
I paid $1400.00:and I quote from Select Nannies "Placement Fee is $1400 Canadian Dollars, payable in two installments; however, there is no initial charge for a Family to register with us"

I paid this amount because I thought that the nanny would not be billed as well (some agencies are free to the employer and charge the nanny lots). My nanny arrived, and after I did some digging, discovered that for the privilege of working in Canada she had paid $2000.00 to an agent who got her listed with Select Nannies, then paid an additional $2000.00 to Select Nannies so she could be listed! Again I quote "What are the agency fees? (for nannies)"You are required to submit an initial CAD $500 registration fee up front to activate your application. Once an employer is found and you have received your work permit, you will be asked to pay the remaining $1,500 prior to your arrival to Canada."

Oh, Eva's website also claims that nannies away from their children are "suprisingly not homesick". NOT true at all!! that's a joke!!

Parents - please look after your nanny, they are often here broke, sad, nervous, and desparate. A terrible combination making them easy to be abused.
When they arrive, treat them kindly and gently, and then quickly, give them a raise!

onesinglemom said...

Anonymous - Thanks for the important info on the potential for abuse in this program. Please note, however, that the detailed information in this article - right down to the links to government forms - was intended to make it easy, or at least viable, for single mothers to hire nannies without entering into a relationship with an agency. The idea here is to demystify the process so that they feel confident enough to do it themselves. If I did not make that clear in the post, please let me restate it here. By doing it themselves, unfair or unknown fees can be circumvented on both ends of the process. I know how hard it is to emigrate and I also know that many single mothers here are also sad, nervous and desperate. All the more reason for them to take this bull by the horns, put the program to proper use for themselves and their nannies, and avoid middlemen who would cash in on their fright and need. After all, single mothers fix cars, take out mortgages, and provide just about everything else. There's no reason they can't research and hire their own overseas nanny.

Anonymous said...

This is anonymous again, I have done the process now twice - once (the first time) by myself with a nanny from the UK and you are correct, it is very doable. I didn't mean to suggest that we should not use an agency, I just wanted to raise the plight of the nannies.
Women can do it all, and they do. Giving yourself permission to employ a nanny is probably the hardest thing to do of all, however, I can say that it is really working well for me, and I would encourage anybody to consider the idea.

Anonymous said...

I am in the process of hiring a nanny and luckily stumbled upon Nannies from Heaven. it is a 'fair trade' nanny recruitment agency. According to the owner, she feels that is unfair to charge the nanny a higher placement fee than the Canadian family, which I think makes a lot of sense.

She personally recruits all of her nannies and because of her fair trade fees, many of the nannies from the Philippines or Hong Kong are vying to be recruited by her because of her fair treatment, meaning the best want to work for her.
www.nanniesfromheaven.com

Anonymous said...

I had hired a nanny on my own -- I had found her at Canadiannanny.com While searching for help, I stumbled on an agency that has a processing service option.

According to the consultant, if a family has found a nanny they would like to hire, - A-PRO Caregivers & Nannies Inc. will assess the nanny to be sure it meets the requirements, and is truely a bonafide worker - there are many other requirements that Immigration will look at, and if the nanny does not comply Immigration may refuse a visa --leaving the family with no nanny.

I have used the service -and it was worth the $150 that I paid to get my paper work and my nannies extension figured out.

Doing it on your own is fine it's very easy, but there are screening process the agencies put the candidates through to be sure that they would qualify for entry in to the Live-in Caregiver Program.

As of this writing - processing Filipino Nationals out of Hong Kong Taiwan Singapore can be anywhere from 3-6-9months depending on what country the nanny is coming from. Nannies direct from the Philippines is over 18months.

Good luck out there -- live-in nanny is by far the most affordable-- I wish I had done it earlier.


You can view the information here:
http://www.a-procare.com

Anonymous said...

I personally would not use A-Pro Nannies and caregivers as they have a bad track record.

http://mainlandbc.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=137&bbb=0037&firm=1229306

Anonymous said...

As a matter of policy, BBB does not endorse any product, service or business.

BBB Reliability Reports are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment.

Information in this BBB Reliability Report is believed reliable, but not guaranteed as to accuracy.

NOT GUARANTEED AS TO ACCURACY - unfortunately, A-PRO is the subject of a smear campaign - and is working towards fixing the issues with BBB.

Anonymous said...

Just so you are all aware it is against the law to charge nannies a fee to come to Canada. A-Pro Nannies and several other agencies have been illegally charging nannies fees for years. The BC Employment Standards Branch is presently investigating these agencies. I am not sure what you mean by a smear campaign they openly admit to charging nannies fees.

Anonymous said...

Families must not assume that the issues are cut and dry. Agencies - vary in their process. Many agencies dealing with overseas nannies have other players involved. As I understand it, relocation service fees are being charged -- and when I used a relocation service when I first moved to Vancouver, my fees are much higher than what these nannies pay.... their immigration, settlement and employment are at times packaged. A great deal if you asked me.

There are agencies/immigration consultants that offer families thousands of dollars just to get a "contract" but no job or families "disappear".

Going rate for nannies overseas - 3500 - 5000 CAD only for a "sponsor"

I've just recently started an agency part-time. I am helping my nanny who had just received her PR under the Live-in Caregiver Program -- in my research here's a partial list of companies that are charging:
* Global nannies
* ABC Nannies by way of a company in Europe
* International Nannies - by way of goodmark in HK
* Camcare
* A-Class Nannies
* Reponte --
* Able Nannies
* Paragon
* Diamond Personnel

Underground: local families charging$4500CAD.
* Local nannies charging their friends $2000 for families that they find for them.

Based on research from the grassroots organizations - Philippine Women Centre - West Coast Domestic Workers Association - Employment Standards Branch can't do much as many of the cases do not fall under their regulations and the nannies are willing parties.

In my limited experience dealing with this industry --- it's buyer beware as usual. Do you like the person behind the business. Essentially we all do the same thing.

We're charging nannies too. Until families are willing to pay 2000CAD for placement this practice will continue.

I'm meeting more nannies at Douglas Park being brought in through the underground network -- this is where the abuse will be rampant. These nannies who found their own employment will suffer in silence - as many of them will not be told about their rights under immigration and employment laws.

Anonymous said...

Hello there,
talking about finding nannies, I got one from Sabrina, she was very helpful lady, she found me a very professional, reliable one, she mentioned that she is non-profit, and will help out all the proceses, especially, Visa application. I can't remember her website, but I have her email ( ecananny@yahoo.com) no cost at all

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